Odd Footnote in the Gay Rights Debate
This comes to mind because so much of the "liberal" trend of big-city alternative weeklies is that they're queer-friendly, in a time when (until recently) liberal people in the U.S. were far more likely to be queer-friendly than conservatives. (I think that's about to change, quicker than anyone realizes. Read more Andrew Sullivan for why.)
Years ago in any college bull session about sexual identity politics, I'd have strongly taken the position that we treat same-sex romance the same way we treat people with any other particular sexual taste: Anything from toe fetishists to gentlemen who prefer blondes. What consenting adults did privately was their own business and emphatically not mine. Keep it private and I'd be happy.
After all, I simply didn't need to know (neither good nor bad; just indifferent) who any of my friends were sleeping with, men or women, much less whatever it was they actually did with each other. (Obligatory complaint here about thin dorm walls and, uh, noisy people.)
There's a problem with this, one that people kept pointing out that I didn't fully appreciate until very recently: Married straight people talk about their spouses all the time. This is also true to some extent of single straight people and their steady significant others (if any).
As mentioned a couple other places, I recently discovered (very awkwardly) that one of my friends is a widower. It occurred to me after I found out that there was a sign: Other married guys I know tend to mention their wives a lot in casual conversation. They call their wives if they're working late, that sort of thing. My friend never made this kind of reference, even though as of last summer (we'd been out of touch for a few months) I'd known him as married. In hindsight the absence should have been conspicuous.
It's just one of those dopey epiphanies that a really sheltered person has sometimes. Not sure why it reminded me of the old bull sessions. In any case, I can know that So-and-So's wife is X (and meet Mrs. So-and-So) without knowing or caring about what they actually do with their (private) lives. It should work the same way for knowing that these two particular guys (or gals) have that long-term commitment going, right?
The other question used to be whether gay guys and gals actually make that sort of commitment. There's evidence, both statistical and anecdotal, that the typical guy doesn't (gal does though). But you can get into all sorts of trouble making one-size-fits-all social conventions out of a "typical" person's tendencies.
Still, I didn't honestly believe that men could fall in love with each other (or women with each other) until I knew a couple of guys who actually did seem to be in love.
This comes to mind because so much of the "liberal" trend of big-city alternative weeklies is that they're queer-friendly, in a time when (until recently) liberal people in the U.S. were far more likely to be queer-friendly than conservatives. (I think that's about to change, quicker than anyone realizes. Read more Andrew Sullivan for why.)
Years ago in any college bull session about sexual identity politics, I'd have strongly taken the position that we treat same-sex romance the same way we treat people with any other particular sexual taste: Anything from toe fetishists to gentlemen who prefer blondes. What consenting adults did privately was their own business and emphatically not mine. Keep it private and I'd be happy.
After all, I simply didn't need to know (neither good nor bad; just indifferent) who any of my friends were sleeping with, men or women, much less whatever it was they actually did with each other. (Obligatory complaint here about thin dorm walls and, uh, noisy people.)
There's a problem with this, one that people kept pointing out that I didn't fully appreciate until very recently: Married straight people talk about their spouses all the time. This is also true to some extent of single straight people and their steady significant others (if any).
As mentioned a couple other places, I recently discovered (very awkwardly) that one of my friends is a widower. It occurred to me after I found out that there was a sign: Other married guys I know tend to mention their wives a lot in casual conversation. They call their wives if they're working late, that sort of thing. My friend never made this kind of reference, even though as of last summer (we'd been out of touch for a few months) I'd known him as married. In hindsight the absence should have been conspicuous.
It's just one of those dopey epiphanies that a really sheltered person has sometimes. Not sure why it reminded me of the old bull sessions. In any case, I can know that So-and-So's wife is X (and meet Mrs. So-and-So) without knowing or caring about what they actually do with their (private) lives. It should work the same way for knowing that these two particular guys (or gals) have that long-term commitment going, right?
The other question used to be whether gay guys and gals actually make that sort of commitment. There's evidence, both statistical and anecdotal, that the typical guy doesn't (gal does though). But you can get into all sorts of trouble making one-size-fits-all social conventions out of a "typical" person's tendencies.
Still, I didn't honestly believe that men could fall in love with each other (or women with each other) until I knew a couple of guys who actually did seem to be in love.